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Sorry Jed, but health is not a "free market good". on a market you have a choice to buy a good,but you dont have a choice with health.
It looks like jedia hatas Obama like her master trump . They both are so bussy bad mouthing Obama , its about people who die or are in pain and needs help to live .
YES JED GETS IT
No, the free market solution to healthcare doesn't work..
We aren't just complaining for no reason. Let me give you my numbers. I work 3 jobs, one full time, two part time. My full time doesn't provide benefits, which leaves me to apply through NY state of health. I get a tax credit which is nice, but the cheapest plan available covers absolutely nothing, i'm not kidding. It's $72/mo $6000 deductible, 50% coinsurance after meeting that deductible. That's disgusting.So, I enrolled in a Healthfirst Bronze leaf plan, $120/mo (after my tax deductible of $150) and now, i'm fighting with the insurance company over the phone to have them approve a medication I NEED -- and instead they will not cover it even with prior-authorization or appeals from my doctor. They will not cover it. It's an $800/mo medication without coverage. That's the reality of all prescription drug costs. Now my deductible for this plan is $4000, which I will NEVER meet. I know this. So THIS, is why people who are fresh out of college, in debt, barely scraping by WANT genuine change. You cannot demand that everyone pay into a faulty system for crap healthcare, because look what happens even with a plan that is essentially basic healthcare -- nothing is covered! And i need things to be covered, I pay enough per month. We all want the same thing. We need to hold politicians accountable for their words, this is NOT okay.
Jed is so full of s**t
Americans didn't care who they got for their healthcare services when Obamacare came out. They ran to chiros, PA's , anyone who said they were medical care. So stop whining your lies are just that. Medical care is not a RIGHT it is a privilege for which we work.
Here is why free market healthcare doesn't work. Imagine if you had 40 people divided into 4 groups representing 4 different insurance companies. Lets say in group one you have 1/9 ratio of sick/health. Those 9 healthy can cover the cost of the 1 six person. Now take the next two groups at 0/10 all since their is no one that's sick that money goes to profit and is basically wasted. Then take the last group with a ration of 5/4 those 4 healthy workers can't cover the cost of the sick and everyone's premiums rise and the sick get higher deductibles. HOWEVER, if you put those 40 people all in one group (SINGLE PAYER) that ration becomes 6/34 which would naturally drive down cost. I would much rather have to pay a 5% payroll tax instead of paying $400 for insurance wit a $5000 deductible.
Trickle down economics and the free market is complete fantasy
wasn't the free market over health insurance prior to the ACA? we wouldn't have needed the ACA if the free market worked in healthcare right?? so clearly it didn't, I remember as most ppl do how it was B4 the ACA, was a disaster, the companies colluded and we all knew they did just like gas companies do! the free market failed in health insurance period! so why is this twit advocating a return to it? I'd like to see if she advocates the privatization of police departments Nationwide, I'm sure the free market would work well in that!!!
Every month my government deduct 100$ from my paycheck for mandatory health insurance and it's great - when it comes to my health EVERTHING is free - we just pay symbolic price for medicine - what's wrong with that ? every single citizen is covered we have no other choice - and we love it !
What they don't bring up is, with Obama care the deductible might be high but if you get cancer, at least you won't end up 1 million dollars in debt and lose your home! Lord....they don't know what it is like for people who make a lot less money. We could always work on paying off a $5000 deductible but not a 400,000 bill. It costs at least $5,000 for one day in the hospital and that is without any big treatment. Get real people.
Jeb honey, the reason that the ACA even came into play was because in your perfect free market plan no one could afford it. Insurance companies were totally screwing everyone, and a lot of people could not get insurance. We keep letting corporations get away with murder, they will. I agree that the ACA is flawed, but to just repeal and go back to nothing our country will suffer. I know that you're a pretty little rich girl who has probably been spoiled and entitled your entire life. But the rest of America needs help. If I have to give 25% of my paycheck to tax I want it to help my people not the already bloated pentagon budget and to wall street. & it makes NO sense that any logically thinking person can't or won't grasp the concept.
To Zaprude,i agree.
Someone give Jedediah a macroeconomics class please.
This is my favourite group of co-hosts. They all bring different things to the table.
America needs to adopt Canada's health care system, period. The "free market" healthcare thing is completely stupid. It makes no fucking sense.
Jed and Paula fileted it!
STOPPPP ur hurting my brain
Car insurance isnt the same i can choose to not have a car and i would never get charged a penatly!!! it would be the same if americans got a penalty for not having a car to get insurance
The U.S. is NOT a SUPERPOWER, without a socialized healthcare system, as in Germany, Sweden, U.K., France and almost all industrialized countries, the U.S. is a STUPID POWER!
The notion that the free market will solve the problem with healthcare is simply naive. Capitalism operates on the profit motive it has no means or desire to value morality and decency. Look at the current cost of the epi-pen and breast cancer medication if you think that freemarket would be beneficial for the most vulnerable in society.
I can't stand Jedediah!!!!! Every single show.....i hate her on the same level as Tomi Lahren and Ivanka Trump. Lord bring me patience with these crazy human beings.
I feel so sorry for Americans. I've been lucky enough not to need medical care but I have had routine check ups on the NHS. My dad had cancer a few years ago and we didn't have to deal with insurance companies or have a massive medical bill. The focus was on getting better
Hey jed that's what was happening before and it didn't work you idiot.
then give it to us free, kick the insurance companies out they r needless middle men, costing the country MORE to support our citizens
where is Whoopi?
What is she talking about? There's no "free market" for something like healthcare.What a load of distracting BS. There are no federal restrictions that block insurance companies from selling cross state lines. Either the States have blocked it themselves, or the insurance companies just don't want to do that, even when it's allowed. Trying to change that won't solve any problems..The only option that's actually going to save America money is a Single-Payer healthcare system. The rest of the world has proven that for us.
A single payer system resolves everything. What you do is give everyone "free" health insurance and then companies can instead of paying into health insurance give folks more money. If your company family plan costs you 600 a month and your company contributes 400 that is a 12,000 dollars. If the gov't covers you and your company gives you that 400 in cash. That and what you pay allows you to gross 12k more a years that gov't can tax to pay for your coverage. Even at a 40% tax rate you will have a additional 7200 dollars a year to spend. Look. Health care resolved.
First all I did not see a good chunk of your message but oh well. Second a single payer system everyone and I mean everyone's taxes should be used to pay for it. If you remove the need for companies and employees to contribute from wages that extra income in working people's pockets means more taxes. Some of that pays for health care why folks still have extra money to spend. The elite rich should not have to pay for my health care alone. I should be required to pay my share. Everyone should have to pay for a single payer system. Pay a fair rate based upon what you earned. Put the capable people back the work and we all pitch in to help the ones who can not work. Your comment about the middle class getting hurt the most utter bs. If everyone pays the same tax rate based upon income that is a fair shared cost. But it will not happen because the rich are greedy by saying I want to keep my money and the middle class and poor are greedy by saying the rich should pay more because they have more. In short plenty of greed and selfishness to go around. I do not want Bill Gates paying for me. I merely want Bill Gates to pay his fair share based upon a rate. His say 5% is hundreds of millions more then my 5%.
You completely missed my point Henry.If you can have a single payer system which is largely paid for by the corrupt 1% rich elites, then GREAT, I'M ALL FOR IT.Like i said in the beginning - I DO believe in single payer system, but the problem is who should pay for it?And your argument that a single payer system will save money for middle class is wrong. It only saves ONCE YOU BECOME OLD. But if you're a working millennial in your mid-30s who is just struggling to raise a family, good luck buddy.Ultimately, it all comes down to making sure the rich 1% are paying their fair share, but GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. Until you get that done, you can't fund a single payer system without hurting the young middle class (e.g. the millennials)
Nobody that matters will lose their health coverage. Those 24 Million are not rich so they don't matter.
I don't understand why the US still has so much trouble accepting the idea of universal healthcare. People's health shouldn't be within the remits of a free market.
Jed sticking her tounge out at 44 seconds. I like that side of her. ;) Not really the speaking side.
The government is supposed to be the common force, to do only what the individual forces have a natural and lawful right to do to. that is to protect persons, liberties, and properties to maintain the right of each, and to cause justice to work for us all. If our nation would just stick to what we were founded on, it seems to me that order would prevail among the people, in thought as well as in action. It seems to me that such a nation would have the most simple, easy to accept, economical, limited, nonoppressive, Just, and enduring government imaginable.. Orange pants is Right. Under such an administration, everyone would understand that he possessed all the privileges as well as all the responsibilities of his existence. No one would have any argument with government, provided that his person was respected, his work was free, and the earnings of his labor were protected against all unjust attack. People would not have to thank the state for their success. And, if unsuccessful, people would not think of blaming the state for their misfortune anymore then a farmer would blame the state because of rains and floods. The state would be felt only by the valuable protection of safety provided by this concept of government. Can people handle freedom? We can not be free and unfree at the same time. The sources of our existence are made uncertain and precarious by these state-created displacements. And, these acts burden the government with increased responsibilities.
wow that girl is so stupid ..only woppi can shut her up
why would ever want people to chooose not to have health insurence? if ur co-worker get sick and cant pay for the help... you might get sick aswellfree market religion is pathetic
i love jedidiah! she is so smart and courageous standing up to these hysterical loons.
Everyone needs health insurance. Your age shouldn't matter, you never know what life will throw at you.
You are owed health care by the government! The government owes you a house, owes you food. Pphhht
I made the right decision moving to France.
Jesus Christ this is a fucking nightmare. I can't believe this is actually happening. We have Nazi generals in power voting for fucking Phillip Morris not Americans.
there are a few things that should not have a profit motive: health care, education, criminal justice to name a few
Oh it's called the view because they rarely discuss facts. Sounds good.
Hey View ladies.. How many people today are without Health Insurance? And for those that do have Health Insurance DUE TO THE MANDATE.. how many of those ever get past the deductible for their insurance to kick in... HOW ABOUT THOSE NUMBERS?? Yeah, No you wouldn't want to talk about that because then you would have to face the fact that Obamacare is NOT HEALTHCARE, it is simply a mandate to purchase Health Insurance that you cannot even use... GEESH!!! Liberals are so short sighted...
The misinformation is insane. You replace facts with anecdotal stories. You spend a third of health costs on admin. You are a danger to others without healthcare, infectious diseases for one. Vaccinations are important. Free market does not work in healthcare because they are profit driven.
ISIS just announced that Trump and his administrations pledged a lesion to Isis and they promised to kill many more people with their “Healthcare Plan”.
happy whoopi is not there
"Car insurance exists because they don't want you to be a liability to someone else." I understand that cars aren't mandatory to own, but for those who own them, we impose insurance on them. Health care is something that everyone needs at some point in their lives. Just like we vaccinate children so that they're not a liability to someone else, y'all should mandate health insurance so that you're not a liability to people who pay taxes to fund emergency rooms and poor family members who have to mortgage their homes to make sure you don't die. How is that difficult to comprehend?
Free Market Health Care has not worked yet, what make her think it will work now? Just because drumpf and Lying Ryan say it will?
I worked in healthcare for 8 yrs and was over the Obamacare division when it was introduced. The plans barely covered anything and thats not to mention the countless practices taking advantage of ppl by not offering what the plan offered at that rate or amount of their plan. The dumbest thing is that u need insurance for being ill.we live for m a very rich nation. If the government put more money in these hospitals we would be ok.
LESS GOVERNMENT!!!!! Obamacare negatively impacted my health insurance. Higher costs, less coverage. Yuck!!
ok if you know Doctors are Angeles they don't mind money they save lives
I will never understand why Americans are scared of universal healthcare. I live in Canada, ours is no where close to perfect, but I am truly thankful, that if I need help healthcare wise I can get it. I can go to the doctors and not have to bring my check book with me...I can have a child, and not leave the hospital with a bill. Again, ours need an improvement in areas, but I would never switch.
Is this man not doing everything he not only condemned President Obama for, but vowed he'd never would? From golfing to raising taxes.
"...but if you have a free market system" Yeah that free market system gave us; pre-existing conditions, life-time maximums, corporate healthcare formulary denials, ...
I partially agree with Jed. I don't believe you should be penalized if you choose not to buy healthcare. There are people that are not provided healthcare by their workplace and they have not gotten sick enough to go to the hospital all year, but they have to pay a thousand dollar or more penalty a year for choosing Not to buy healthcare. And these are people just below the poverty line. So shelling out a thousand or more a year in addition to taxes being taken out every check is a great financial burden on them.
Now in America there is no housing for the homeless. It doesn't matter how you get there, if the medical industry strips you of everything, if you lose your job and have no means to support yourself or your kids, or whether you are a drug addict the government will abandon you. In Los Angeles there is a 10,000 person waiting list for housing assistance, in San Diego there is an 8-10 year wait. In Arizona the support has been closed for years, they are not taking new applications and there is no prediction of when it might open again, Florida is shut down, North Carolina opened up for the second time in 14 years and got 10,000 applicants almost overnight. As I research state by state the same story is coming up. Washington state is closed. New York has 45,000 homeless children -that's about the same population as the town of Niagara Falls. Imagine that, a town full of children, with no homes, nowhere to sleep at night, no fridge to put their milk in, nowhere to take a bath, no stove with which to cook their food. And that is what America does for the homeland security of its children!!!! Children can spend decades living in storm drains...We pay the federal government $3 trillion a year for their services and we get this kind of horror instead, and we get VERY rich politicians and government workers with their security assured. It is time to stop paying these people for bad service and laws they make that harm us. Let's keep those funds in our own communities and provide each other with real homeland security that has meaning to us. Let's provide all our community with affordable housing no matter what, let's provide healthcare that doesn't bankrupt sick people but helps them, let's provide meaningful education, let's create co-operative businesses that share profits with the staff that makes them. And let's create fair justice, ethical policing, and local government that is fierce and protects us. In one decade we would have pumped into our communities and into our economies $30 trillion dollars. That should lift all boats except for those full of people who are the predator class.
Why can't we just have a HEALTH INSURANCE STSTEM ? Is it really that hard to give a plan to cover the ridiculous extremist costs people are being charged for by the medical industry??? That women in purple is right people have insurance but they still can't afford to go to the doctor. It's absolutely insane!! People are going to die if they can't get proper medical care they will end up in the emergency room and it will be too late.
let free market do it's job and it will work she must be some kind of special this free market is sending jobs to China and replacing people with robots every which way you look at this there will be a problem
Im just glad im Canadian✌🏽
The woman on the far right is the only smart one on that panel.
I work in Healthcare and my patients are great full for the ACÁ
Please!!!!! Stop calling it Obamacare!!!!!! It's The Affordable Care Act!!!!! I say we all get the Medical Insurance Congress gets and they get what they're planning to change
This was an interesting twist in politics. Sunny came off more conservative on the isdud, and Juliadiah came off a lot more liberal than usual, the irony.
Free markets work that's why the car insurance is so high. Yeah we all know about the free markets SMH.
Notice how Jedediah fails to mention that the ones who would benefit the most with Trumpcare will be the already rich and the insurance companies. And who's complaining the most about Obamacare being taken away? Middle America White Rethuglicans. Be careful what you wish for haters.
Let's face it Trump said he is going to REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING TERRIFIC. NOW IT IS TERRIFYING.
Sunny!! Where do you get your #s are you in sane 100 dlrs a month health care your crazy try 700 for one person ( Middle Class )
Shut up Joy! I think you should move to Canada!!
David Fiedler after you.
Yup crazy the republicans say go to the emergency room wtf I went their once and I got a deep cut and they charge me 300 just for a band aide wtf
jed is always more brave, when whoopy is gone.
Glad we in the UK have free health coverage even through we don't appreciate it
JED I AGREE WITH AND THANK YOU FOR TELLING TRUMP SUPPORTS THEY GOT PLAYED
See that clilp was a great example of sensible people debating conservative and liberal sections of a topic with facts. Why is that sooo hard today?
By mandating that everyone get health insurance, then the total cost for each drops. Because 1/3 won't need it most of the time, 1/3 will need it part of the time, while the remaining 1/3 (mostly elderly and those who have disabilities and things like cancer), will need it more. So the total cost levels out for everyone. Insurance companies make money, people have health care and it makes things easier. Those who don't want health care, I have the perfect idea. If you don't want health care, opt out. Then you would be moved to a list that any and all medical care you get at a hospital, is 100% on you. The hospital just would make you pay for the services upfront. Leaving everyone else's taxes alone. If you can't pay for health care, and you opted out, tough. That's totally on you. You don't want health care, fine, you don't get health care. Enjoy your own death.That's how you solve that problem without screwing up everyone else's health care.
If you want to know how well the free-market model works, just look a few years back before the ACA. The fact that SO many people didn't have insurance when the insurers were left to their own devices is exactly why the ACA was needed!
I disagree with Jed, because as leader of free world, people should have government subsidised universal health care that has the highest world standard. I reapect Jed conservative free market approach, but medical care is the one thing that should not be part of capitalist system, because your care will be reflective of what you can afford, not care you need.
Name one free-market health insurance system that worked. Name one from anywhere on the planet.
The American health system is so absurd. Paying money every fucking month just IN CASE you get sick? Its the biggest scam ever. Im Norwegian living in the US and nothing infuriates me more. You dont even get your money back if you never got sick that year, so whats it good for? Just to keep pumping your funds to the insurance companies?? America needs to take some serious lessons from Europe.
Jed comes with facts. I don't always agree with what she says but I value her view on this show because she looks at the topics objectively.
free market? I guess we forgot about sweatshops and monopolies :vgive the companies too much power and they will take advantage.
Jed is an idiot.
Request an itemized list of costs if you ever have to stay in the hospital. I was charged $46.86 for a box of tissues$12.00 for a pair of earplugs4 Tylenol $16.00.I won't get into the expensive stuff. The hospital charges outrageous amounts to the insured people to offset the cost of people who cannot afford to pay. If Trumpcare is passed, the ER will go back to being a lot of uninsured, or underinsured people's only healthcare, and costs will skyrocket. If you think Obamacare is bad, you are in for a very rude awakening.
Not too mention this bill has gutted drug addiction funding, and during an opiate epidemic, and mental health services. This came right after they took away a number of restrictions for common sense gun safety. The GOP are the swamp. The absolute only people who will benefit are the wealthiest 1% of the country. The people who hiked the prices of the epi pen, and Narcan spray. A little side note Rick Scott sold his wife $60 million in narcon stocks to his wife, 2 weeks before he mandated as govener of FL that every police officer, fire dept. school had the product on hand. Oh yeah his wife, works for the drug co.that makes it. They're barely even trying to hide the conflict of interest, or the appearance of impropriety anymore.
libertarianism will never stop being the dumbest political ideology ever from some stupid fictional book called atlas shrugged written by a selfish author that in the end even died alone. sad!
oh Jed...people are going to look back on this as history and see how much of a wretched person you are.
I love Jed......
I am thankful to live in a country with mandated insurance. I may be healthy now but you never know what might happen and I don't want to be sick/hurt as well as bankrupt, thank you very much.
How many Americans would have health care when Obamacare self-destructed? It was doomed to fail since day one. Nowhere, in the US Constitution, is it stated that the government must provide healthcare for anybody. Before Obamacare, employed people usually had access to affordable healthcare plans. Putting fines on people for not signing on for a government run "Obamacare" program is so wrong in so many ways.
Healthcare is not a commodity for the market. It is not a couch. If you don't save, if you don't have the money you still get the care.
Thank you, Jed! She made so much sense here! Thankfully Whoopi wasn't there to say something with no justification.
Whoopi cries about fake news.....the very next day she is back at it, spreading fake news. Wtf is wrong with her head?
I luv the view good info and explanation 👌
Sarah hit the nail on the head. The outrageous costs for services is the real problem. Cost Controls were supposed to be part of the bill for Obamacare. But I believe it was taken out before it was passed. Any healthcare bill that is passed without any mechanism for cost control will fail.
paula ferret...paula ferret return to your zoo...wont watch when you are b.s.-ing!!neoconvict
The problem is every subset of the market is in cahoots with each other. They can all decide to charge one person roughly $500 a month for insurance. Same things with car insurance, phones. Everything. They all charge a ridiculous amount of money and there isn't competition. They all win and the American people lose.
Free market means phram companies can keep their prices high as will insurance companies. If there are no regulations and the market controls everything. It's a loss for the individual American. Single payer system or follow European standards. Is the way to go so all can get covered. We especially need regulations on phram companies and allow. Medication from Canada and other countries to be sold in the US at the cost of those particular countries.
The free market only works with oversight. Case and point, Martin Skerelly... Pharma Bro who raised cancer medicine by 900%... Like Sunny said, because the insurance companies are gonna be good standup citizens who cares about people over profit. It's always great when rich people talk about how easy the system is...
Um it didn't work before the aca what makes you think it'll work now conservatives????
I don't think Jed has ever studied economics, unfortunately like many people all she does is repeat unfounded radio talk show commentary!
If you skip out on your hospital bill, you are a liability to EVERYONE else.