The Origins of the American Public Education System: Horace Mann & the Prussian Model of Obedience

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  • The American Public Education System was directly imported from Prussia (modern day Germany). This model of "free and compulsory" education was designed by the Prussian Emperor, in order to generate obedient workers and soldiers who would not question his authority.

    In the 1830's, American Lawmaker Horace Mann visited Prussia and researched its education methodology. He was infatuated with the emperor's method of eliminating free thought from his subjects and designed an education system for Massachusetts directly based on these concepts. The movement then quickly spread nationally.

    Horace Mann said, "The State is the father of children." Do you want your children growing up in total submission to the State?

    Credit goes to Brendan Conway-Smith and Eve Zarifa
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Comments: 175

  • ibrahim el-chehimi
    ibrahim el-chehimi 9 days ago

    thanks for this information it's good to no

  • J-Bird Oliver
    J-Bird Oliver 13 days ago

    I dropped out in march, I thought I would regret it in some way, I haven't in the slightest. Bidding the system farewell is the best decision I've ever made.

  • Lolliepop
    Lolliepop 17 days ago

    And that's why I will homeschool my kids!

  • Armando7654
    Armando7654 1 month ago

    "great" man? LOL
    are you aware how uneducated public school students are? Lying Scum

  • ScareCro
    ScareCro 1 month ago

    "Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." - Vladimir Lenin

  • TELEthruVOXx
    TELEthruVOXx 1 month ago

    Boy that Horace Mann was a real jerk

  • Adrian chaconne
    Adrian chaconne 2 months ago

    They are controlling our minds.

    I'm William Wallace, and the rest of you will be spared. Go back to England and tell them... Scotland is free! William Wallace
    Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williamwal185158.html

  • ItzRiot
    ItzRiot 3 months ago

    And now teachers teach useless crap that we will never use in life , thanks horace mann

  • scythermantis
    scythermantis 3 months ago

    More false-flagging by Jews trying to blame 'evil Nazis' for their own nefarious intentions.
    (((Horace Mann))) was a subversive Kike (not a 'Prussian') who pushed Communist, Globalist ideals (while the Germans were kicking out all the Jews--ever wonder why (((he))) was over here???)
    (((David Coleman))) and (((Jason Zimba))) are two more Kikes trying to push (((Common Core))) years later.
    Never forget that Jews always try to infiltrate and destroy whatever culture they're in!

  • filqpy
    filqpy 3 months ago

    I wanna go back there and steal everything from Horace Mann's life

  • Leah Leigh
    Leah Leigh 4 months ago

    It is not capitalist, but tyrannical. Capitalism is just supply and demand. It works by supplying the demand. If a business does not supply the demand, it fails.

  • ATRStormUnit
    ATRStormUnit 5 months ago

    There is an interesting side note: When talking about education in schools, the German language has a specific word for it - Bildung, which is derived from the word for picture, image, and would translate into something like forming. It means that the child is supposed to form themself (or be formed into, that was an earlier way of thinking) into an adult. The meaning of the word is usually limited to the school system and excludes stuff like life experiences or what you learn from parents.
    English only has the word education to describe all of it.
    So it might be possible that because of this difference in language, some stuff might have been lost in translation when implementing it in the US.

    Also, the map is really incorrect; Prussia de facto took over Germany in 1871. However, before that, most of it consisted of independent small states with no real federal government to speak of.

  • Edward Skrod
    Edward Skrod 5 months ago

    There was a great book written about this but I forget the author.  Anyone recommend?  The author was New York teacher of the year....

    • Edward Skrod
      Edward Skrod 5 months ago

      John Taylor Gatto, "Underground History of American Education"


  • King Dededediddles
    King Dededediddles 7 months ago

    Horace the Horrible

  • sokowa
    sokowa 7 months ago

    Thanks for this video. The Monitorial System was way better than Mann's primitive, authoritarian model. Mann did such a disservice to so many generations, he's a criminal:

    From Wikipedia on the Monitorial System:
    The Monitorial System was an education method that became popular on a global scale during the early 19th century. This method was also known as "mutual instruction" or the "Bell-Lancaster method" after the British educators Dr Andrew Bell and Joseph Lancaster who both independently developed it. The method was based on the abler pupils being used as 'helpers' to the teacher, passing on the information they had learned to other students.[

    1] The Monitorial System was found very useful by 19th-century educators, as it proved to be a CHEAP way of making primary education more INCLUSIVE, thus making it possible to increase the average class size. Joseph Lancaster's motto for his method was Qui docet, discit -- "He who teaches, learns."

    The Mannian Model:
    In the late 19th and early 20th century in the United States and elsewhere, the monitorial method was abandoned in favor of the methods of Horace Mann, using the lecture model of direct instruction delivered to passive students grouped into classes by age, without regard to differences in aptitude. It created more jobs for professional teachers, and was sold as a better way to educate more students to a higher level, but was criticized for reducing the participation of students in educating themselves and one another, and increasing the modeling of behavior on age peers over that of adults.

  • colonists  first
    colonists first 7 months ago

    Prussian education is not an example of the crap in American people and it's daralic!

  • Browser Option
    Browser Option 7 months ago

    This is so scary, it almost seems like some kind of sci-fi movie plot

    • Tim Kane
      Tim Kane 6 months ago

      Well it's a bit overwrought. Keep in mind: a 2nd class something is better than a 1st class nothing. In "Global Economic History: A Very Short Introduction" (a very short, cheap & easy read & powerfully informative book) Oxford Economic Historian Robert Allen explains that all the prosperous societies of the 20th century (save Britain) were industrialized/made prosperous by a standard industrial policy (mostly authored by Alexander Hamilton in his "Report on Manufactures to Congress in 1791). The Standard Policy had 4 legs: (1) High Tariffs to protect infant industries from British competition; (2) Extensive investments in transportation infrastructure (to create national markets); (3) A National Bank to moderate currency panics & recessions AND to provide credit for infrastructure projects, new industries and expanding businesses. (Those nations that did not have control of national policy, especially as to tariffs, such as India, Indochina, Indonesia and most of Africa, was then held back in economic development.) A Fourth leg was established: mass (near universal) education - mostly on the Prussian model.

      All the countries that achieved these 4 legs in policy extensively in the 19th century became prosperous industrialized countries by 1900. One country implemented Hamilton's 3 legs but failed to implement mass education was Mexico. The white ruling class of Mexico had no interest in providing for the education of the Mestizo and Indian populations. As a result, Mexico imported technology for the factories it created behind the tariff barriers but the spread and use of technology did not occur and died out when the foreign technicians died out or left.

      Some education is better than none and more is better than less. The Prussian system spread because it worked better than whatever else was lying around. Germany implemented The Standard Industrial Policy beginning in 1832 far, far behind Great Britain (at the time of Napoleon, Britain's industrial output exceeded the combined rest of the European continent). By 1900 Germany had pulled even with Britain and was leading in the new cutting edge industries of Chemicals and Electronics. By 1914 (the start of WWII). Germany had pulled ahead of Britain. Neighboring states. Obviously as the Mexican case shows, the wealthy and elites cannot be expected to have interests in the advancement of other class groups at the expense of their own, so it seems reasonable that some influence of the rich might influence the shape of education policy. Mass education coming out of the 18th century was quite an achievement for the their times.

      Additionally, I don't think it is fair to treat nationalism in Germany as something uniquely fostered in Germany after the Napoleonic wars. Before the French Revolution nationalism was largely unknown. Initially the emergence of nationalism with France in conjunction with the French revolution helped impel Revolutionary France to export the French revolution and the Napoleonic Code to neighboring countries. But the result of the wars of the French revolution and Napoleon triggered nationalism all over Europe: in Germany to be sure, but the most famous case of this was in Spain where Spanish nationalist force Napoleon out of the country. After the French Revolution, anywhere there was a national identity there was a demand for self governance. The racist overtones were unfortunate but nationalism in the 19th century was not a strictly German phenomina, nor I suspect was racism. Germany did not fall back into Naziism until after a series of unprecedented disasters: Food riots during the blockade during WWI, the defeat of WWI, the post war recession, the hyperinfaltion of the early 1920, followed by only 4 years of reasonable prosperity before the collapse of Wall Street and the Great Depression that followed which turned out to be one calamity too many for one nation to absorb.

      I'm not advocating on behalf of the Prussian model. I'm just saying it was significantly better than nothing.


  • Kaiden  Filmore 3rd
    Kaiden Filmore 3rd 8 months ago

    "Great man" for giving us a prison for kids

  • Robert Corsini
    Robert Corsini 11 months ago

    And the point here is what exactly? Do away with public education and then replace it with what? Universal online diplomas? Home education for all? What was there before the 'Prussian' model was adopted?

    • Fell Man
      Fell Man 4 months ago

      Oh WOW you're calling me out on something I had a good argument about, well let's analyze how you're calling me out and evaluate it.

      "And you're the PERFECT example of why we good need public schools."

      How so? I went to public school and graduated so I passed the system. I didn't fail so I don't understand the accusation on that alone.

      "You can help create a critical thinking United States by (1) not allowing conservative ideologies in the classroom, as they are opposed to critical thinking and simply want us to memorize tidbits, and (2) not allowing your conservative buddies to steal PUBLIC money for their PRIVATE schools"

      Not allowing conservative ideologies in the classroom? What if students want to be conservative? Who are you to tell them what they can and can't learn? That's how the current system works already! Liberal ideologies are opposed to critical thinking too just like conservative ones are. Both ideologies have you remember tidbits btw.

      No I don't think conservatives should use tax dollars to pay for private school, that I agree with you on. Paying for a business is the customers job NOT the taxpayers' job.

      Sorry for the late reply if google notifications was better I would responded sooner.


    • GenevaPilgrim
      GenevaPilgrim 9 months ago

      Robert, The point is that the Public school system needs a makeover. Students sitting in nice rows of desks watching a teacher write on the blackboard is a system that is failing. Finland is consistently in the top 10 and their school system is vastly different than ours. It encourages creativity and critical thinking. They have shorter school days and spend half the day in a somewhat typical classroom and the other half doing hands on projects and arts. The arts always help kids flourish yet today's public schools spend very little time on arts and encourage sports instead. And sports are good, don't get me wrong, but sports keep you in shape, but they do not exercise the mind. So what do most schools sink the most money into? Sports of course, because healthy bodies make better workers and of course, like I said, health is GOOD, but they use that as an excuse to barely fund the arts at the mass majority of public schools. My son's public school theatre program received less than $2000 for the entire school year to put on a musical and a play and also for props and scripts and things for the acting classes. I volunteer for a local non-profit community theatre. We spend more than that to put on two plays a year, so believe me, $2000 a year is nothing.
      Meanwhile, the Football team received over $10,000 and have multiple coaches and they also make revenue from the concession stand and ticket sales. The choir and the art department received even less than the theatre department.
      So the public school system is obviously broken. The classes that encourage critical thinking like math and science get next to nothing for supplies. My oldest son graduated from public school and he took 3 years of Spanish and can barely speak Spanish yet he got A's all three years. How is that even possible?


    • seanwilliams78
      seanwilliams78 9 months ago

      As a grad student of the Political Economy of Education, let me be the first to tell you that you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.

      And you're the PERFECT example of why we *good* need public schools. You can help create a critical thinking United States by (1) not allowing conservative ideologies in the classroom, as they are opposed to critical thinking and simply want us to memorize tidbits, and (2) not allowing your conservative buddies to steal PUBLIC money for their PRIVATE schools - as over $500 Billion dollars of public, taxpayer money has been used toward for-profit and private schooling thanks to conservatives lobbying in "education."


    • BlazeIsBOSS
      BlazeIsBOSS 9 months ago

      replace it with actual education


    • Fell Man
      Fell Man 9 months ago

      You have private schooling, you have home schooling and you even have informal ways of getting an education or a job and yet people STILL say we need the public school system. They're like "Hurr durr we need public school! Private school is too expensive and home schooling makes you a weirdo!"

      Okay one, private schooling is only expensive because the government is involved somehow and two, home schooling DOES NOT make you a weirdo. Home schooling offers all these benefits yet people are still like "But what about socialization?" And I'M like "Seriously? You're still going on about socialization? After all these benefits about homeschooling that were mentioned and you're STILL going on about socialization?" Give me a break! Okay let's say these people are right and that you don't develop socially in homeschooling, well SO WHAT? You go to school to get an education NOT to socialize although since you're with people socialization with inevitably/inadvertently happen.

      What's so great about public school socialization anyway? You get bullied (I know I did), you get abused, you get to listen to people talk stupidity about things such as sex. I don't want that for my kids if I ever have any. That's not socialization, that's being imprisoned with a bunch of idiots.

      Plus homeschoolers have been proven to do better in every way than public schoolers. They have better math, language arts, science, social studies and other skills INCLUDING socialization! Gee! I guess being able to learn what YOU WANT and your own pace, away from bad influences really helps out!

      So the people who say public schooling is best really need more of an education themselves.


  • Barry Smith
    Barry Smith 11 months ago

    Every Teacher Needs To See This Video

  • Milliam Woody
    Milliam Woody 11 months ago

    Mandatory anything, is a terrible idea.

  • horus909
    horus909 1 year ago

    And yet many parents in Asia send students to America because individual and creative thought is taught much more than their system.

    • horus909
      horus909 1 year ago

      Educate yourself moron. http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/2013/0812/Chinese-students-coming-to-US-middle-schools-It-s-starting-to-happen


  • Erro
    Erro 1 year ago

    The more that things change, the more they stay the same

  • Al Nevsky
    Al Nevsky 1 year ago

    Interesting perspective that warrants further investigation.

  • Erik Isidoro
    Erik Isidoro 1 year ago

    And now you have Donald Trump, congratz America

    • Teddie
      Teddie 10 months ago

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      I got 15 subs for being a cool random on the youtubes (they're prolly all inactive users).

      And heros for fun are a waste of space. Either get serious or go home kid.


    • saitama
      saitama 10 months ago

      +Teddie you post a fucking bernie sanders hype video tf you a lame 😂


    • saitama
      saitama 10 months ago

      +Teddie Bitch atleast i post tf you got 15 subscribers for also im a hero for fun 😂


    • Teddie
      Teddie 10 months ago

      +saitama Saitama with 1 follower. Yeah, sounds about right you failed, pathetic ass loser hero.


    • saitama
      saitama 10 months ago

      +Teddie stfu


  • Irma Kmitaite-Smith

    "Begging the question" does not mean that one asks a question. It's a philosophical term that is used to show that one is trying to prove in the conclusion what they already assume to be true in a premise.

  • Duane Hayes
    Duane Hayes 1 year ago

    Now go research the origins of the medical industry Hollywood and the entire entertainment industry. And start using your real names! Not using names because you enjoy some anonymity or because you are afraid to stand out, thats a direct result of our schooling system. Be brave!

    • Peter James
      Peter James 8 months ago

      https://archive.org/details/MurderByInjection.EustaceMullins


    • Proverbs 18:13
      Proverbs 18:13 11 months ago

      Do you know of a good place to start researching the origins of the medical industry? A documentry, or a book or something?


    • Al Nevsky
      Al Nevsky 1 year ago

      Sure, bravery can have it's virtues, but it also has its pitfalls.  Choose your battles wisely.


    • G Jenkins
      G Jenkins 1 year ago

      Be brave. Be who you wish to be. Not what they wish you to be.


  • Gregious
    Gregious 1 year ago

    Prussia's in Poland now...

    • WagTheDog
      WagTheDog 9 months ago

      Prussia was most of the northern half of today's Germany plus a good portion of today's western Poland. Wikipedia goes into great detail about the history of Prussia and how it changed over the years until it was abolished in 1945.


    • Pan-European Nationalist
      Pan-European Nationalist 1 year ago

      The original land of Prussia is but the most of the former kingdom of Prussia is in Germany.


  • Adam Skogstrom
    Adam Skogstrom 1 year ago

    Stumbled across this while researching for a school project...

    • Duane Hayes
      Duane Hayes 1 year ago

      +Adam Skogstrom ha stumble across the origins of the medical industry and Hollywood, youll start to see some interesting patterns.


  • Hughy
    Hughy 1 year ago

    They rived to PRUSSIA ?...., okay, Germany was not unificated since 1870 (Franco-Prussian war). But it is still German Impire.

    If Germany didnt started the WW1 (they didnt started it but that is why i hate France and Italy, for drop to the other side at 1917.. and The stupid Servian), germany still may have the Prussian region, that was divided and gave for Polonia after WW1 and WW2.

    • Gregious
      Gregious 1 year ago

      +RushCuttle xploits
      France didn't switch sides? But yeah, Russia, Serbia and Austria-Hungary's fault.


  • ronaldpk2000
    ronaldpk2000 1 year ago

    The map of Europe shown on this video is misleading. I know it's not the author's fault but most likely of those Americans who had traveled across Europe at the time and were somewhat ignorant. Poland as such didn't exist as a country and therefore the territory named Poland was in fact part of czarist Russia. A map of prewar Poland would have had the Polish Corridor splitting East Prussia from the rest of Germany.

  • Act Free
    Act Free 1 year ago

    So this is the reason why we're so far behind. Thanks Horace Mann.

    • Act Free
      Act Free 4 months ago

      +Jmichael Isbell I'm not going to state that our free market economy isn't regulated. That would be a statement clout with ignorance.

      As you may have guessed, I am far leftist. So it should be needless to say that I believe any capitalist society without regulation is one that is begging for widespread inequality, suffering, and exploitation.

      As for the Heritage think tank article, it's complete bullshit, to be frank. While I'm no fan of international free market-ists like the IMF, World Bank, or WHO, the World Health Organization has us ranked poorly for a reason. We're even behind countries like Costa Rica and Morocco.

      http://www.who.int/whr/2000/en/whr00_en.pdf

      To me, it makes no sense that people would have to pay for their health. Take these two sets of numbers. 63% of the US population couldn't afford a $500 emergency. The average hospital stay costs $10,000. Does that make sense to you? It doesn't to me.

      http://www.bankrate.com/finance/consumer-index/money-pulse-1215.aspx
      https://www.hcup-us.ahrq.gov/reports/statbriefs/sb168-Hospital-Costs-United-States-2011.pdf

      And that was before Obamacare. Unfortunately, we don't have numbers from after.

      People cannot be truly free if those who work to make bread are forced to buy a slice of it.

      "Compare that to a government medical center--you pay what we charge--period. Don't like it? Too bad. "

      I'm a Marxist. I don't believe in this concept of money, or even government.

      And you may have problems with some government inefficiency or intervention, and we will find some common agreement there. but the answer is not to release the "beast of the free market." It has been widely discredited from the experiences of the Industrial Era and post-Keynesian management.


    • Jmichael Isbell
      Jmichael Isbell 4 months ago

      Good conversation and important topic Phil. First, there are many who point out, that we only have a free market system IN THEORY, that in fact, the US government has overpowered and dictated to the free market for at least 50 years--- http://www.heritage.org/health-care-reform/report/compelling-evidence-makes-the-case-market-driven-health-care-system What is very ironic about that, is that those that try to tell you "we need the government to take over this "problem" are talking about the very problem, the government created by meddling with free market control. And control is what the free market IS. It really was a bold experiment by the founders, letting people truly be free. Take medicine, why NOT charge 4,000 dollars for a simple innoculation? Because your competitor--and that is the key word, your competing doctor will charge less, and you will your overly fat 4K can't survive. Compare that to a government medical center--you pay what we charge--period. Don't like it? Too bad.
      Second, the American Medical association, many of us believe, have kept the number of doctors artificially low--as evidence, look at how many straight A students that are turned away, unlike say Lawyers. Third, even with those problems--consider that the studies which suggest we are dead last make one premise worth really looking at: how healthy we are. The Americans are much higher in obesity and smoking than most everyone else, so one should not be surprised to learn we die more as a result--of both. But THAT fact is used to "prove" our health care system is "not as good". Honestly, we the people of the US need to take some repsonsibility, not do the blame game and say "yeah, it is our HEALTH CARE that is to blame--so says fat ass and smoking Bill.


    • Act Free
      Act Free 4 months ago

      +Jmichael Isbell It actually doesn't. Socialist systems have been proven to be far more effective in proficiency and growth as compared to capitalism.

      And yet our system consistently ranks in last by the WHO.


    • Jmichael Isbell
      Jmichael Isbell 4 months ago

      I do agree that competition is far, far from perfect; but I also agree with the founders, that it beats socialism and socialistic systems but a long, long shot. And to our health care system, it is so widely criticized and often by people who come from all over the world--to access it.


    • Act Free
      Act Free 4 months ago

      +Jmichael Isbell Our healthcare system is a prime example why competition isn't a fail-safe.


  • jjclifto
    jjclifto 1 year ago

    This may help explain why Common Core is so troublesome when combined with US education. If our current system is designed to squash free, and critical, thinking and replace it with blind obedience, then it is no wonder that Common Core -- designed to promote critical thinking and questioning the evidence presented by others -- causes so much friction. You can't put a square peg in a round hole.

  • Miku Desu Chan 2017
    Miku Desu Chan 2017 2 years ago

    Schooling is designed to turn people into mindless drones and wage slaves. Schooling is designed to turn people into conformists with no creativity or critical thinking skills whatsoever. School is the reason why the Holocaust happened (because the modern schooling system is so good at breeding conformity and obedience to authority, atrocities like the Holocaust are made possible).

    • GideonMightyWarrior
      GideonMightyWarrior 16 days ago

      I homeschool and I can tell you that is certainly NOT what I teach, and that is certainly not true Christianity. Few people that claim Christ really follow the Bible, therefore it gets one black eye after another. As to homeschooling, you really should visit around and do real research, because you are parroting what you have heard about it. You would be happy to know that people who take on the expense and the work to teach their children for years love their children and want them to have a real education and be able to think critically and have the ability to discern bad propaganda when they see it. I started teaching my daughter critical thinking in the 6th grade. Public school would be child abuse. Regarding interacting with others in the world, have you considered that children in public school are age segregated away from the community in concrete block rooms and trained to do what they are told until a bell rings? Children are literally treated like dogs. Rather Pavlovian. On the other hand, homeschooled children are able to get their learning done in much less time, then go outside and pursue their interests there, or go out in the public regularly amongst people of all ages because they are not first cooped up in school all day, who then have to rush home to do more homework for more hours on end. How is that interacting with the world? I was able to organize and take my children on numerous field trips. They went to the store with me and learned how to conduct transactions. We went to museums and cultural exhibits, the pool, the park . . . the list goes on and on. Where were the public schooled kids? In their concrete cell block being told what to do all day and ask permission to go to the bathroom.


    • t4705mb6
      t4705mb6 24 days ago

      The word "holocaust" itself is state propaganda tool similar to the CIA's "conspiracy theorist" moniker pushed in mass media after whistle blowers started spilling the beans about the murders of JFK, RFK and MLK.
      It's all pert of the brainwashing.
      Even people who think they're not susceptible parrot their puppet masters without even realizing it.
      https://bearskinblog.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/pied-piper1.jpg

      BTW: Few people know that the school system is also incorporated --- a business to profit the criminal wealthy.
      Latin: Corp = "dead" and Oration = speaker.


    • Darnell Henson
      Darnell Henson 1 month ago

      seanwilliams78 I use to think the same way about home schooled children until I met a friend who home schools their child. They come together with other home schooled kids of different backgrounds and cultures on a regular basis. That isn't bad at all. but I can't speak for everyone else.


    • seanwilliams78
      seanwilliams78 9 months ago

      That's a constant battle we in education fight. Progressive educators call for critical thinking; actual education. A breath of subject matter. Exposure to truths like THIS about the United States and it's origin.

      The ones keeping "education" in the dark ages, the ones who are afraid of critical thinking in the classroom, the ones who do NOT want the general public to learn too much because they might not be able to control them.

      As for home schooling...that's the LAST place on the PLANET that anyone would learn how to think critically. Think of all of the prejudices people have. Then imagine an environment that fosters all of that hatred and prejudice, channeling it through a child too young to comprehend the brain washing s/he is experiencing. Black people are all evil thugs, anyone who isn't a Xtian is going to burn in eternal hellfire, etc. Home schooling is borderline child abuse. You don't get an education without interacting with others within your world.


    • saitama
      saitama 10 months ago

      +Roberta Tubbs exactly


  • Jordan Jackson
    Jordan Jackson 2 years ago

    This video is very decietful. "While Prussian (military) drill in the times before had been about obedience to orders without any leeway, Fichte asked for shaping of the personality of students. The citizens should be made able and willing to use their own minds to achieve higher goals in the framework of a future unified German nation state."
    Fichte was not what you make him out to be, and openly objected the idea or replacing free will and true intellectualism with national loyalty and obedience. Please read about the people in this video and their ideas yourself. If you do not question it, you are not pursuing true education.

    • DuhHello
      DuhHello 6 months ago

      Jordan Jackson n


    • Con _01
      Con _01 1 year ago

      It is useless, most people do not know investigate. They conform with the first version that drops them in the hands and they get upset when someone encourages them to investigate.


    • Duane Hayes
      Duane Hayes 1 year ago

      +Jordan Jackson either way Jordan, the Prussian model was brought here and as you can tell, was a miserable failure, except there is no sign of change nearly two hundred years later. That's the point.


    • Jordan Jackson
      Jordan Jackson 2 years ago

      Yea, thier premises remain. His intent isnt as the creator of this video portrays. Thats the plot dude.


    • Ramiel
      Ramiel 2 years ago

      +Jordan Jackson Nobel opposed the use of explosives for violent purposes, Einstein and Eisenhower also opposed the use of nuclear bombs on people, Obama won the Nobel peace prize...
      Are you getting the plot here?


  • Leslie Borregard
    Leslie Borregard 2 years ago

    If only I had a time machine I would send myself back to terminate his ass, and prevent this oppressive bull shit from ever happening!

    • Logan Widmer
      Logan Widmer 2 months ago

      Fair point, and I agree


    • Leslie Borregard
      Leslie Borregard 2 months ago

      +Logan Widmer you were implying that correcting past historical mistakes can better our future, well history has now failed us by introducing another upcoming War with North Korea.........some correction huh?.........I guess we've learned absolutely nothing from WW-2!

      But anyways education needs a change and this ignorant brainwashing isn't it, I'm hoping it happens soon!


    • Logan Widmer
      Logan Widmer 3 months ago

      It has gotta change


    • Leslie Borregard
      Leslie Borregard 3 months ago

      It's gone on for far to long now and still nothing is being done about it. People are quick to point fingers at children's parents when a school shooting occurs, yet they still do nothing about it how many shootings have their been like 4?

      I swear it's like humanity wants to find trouble, and torment because the societies they live in are in the right when it's quite the contrary!

      Education is necessary but not at the cost of losing your freedom to learn.


    • Logan Widmer
      Logan Widmer 3 months ago

      I would agree with you and do the same, however, we need this to happen. Yes it is a bad part of history, but if it never happens, no one can ever learn from it so to know to not do it again. We can correct these mistakes by planning for the future.


  • Miku Desu Chan 2017
    Miku Desu Chan 2017 2 years ago

    This is why schooling is a fraud.

  • Dana Webb
    Dana Webb 2 years ago

    Hey
    Cedric Hall
     that's what Hitler wanted to do and a number of other dictators, give them a good government education. LOL!  

  • Paul Davis
    Paul Davis 2 years ago

    The documentary, State Of Mind The Psychology of Control talks about this. 

  • Russell Spears
    Russell Spears 2 years ago

    The harm has already been done..... Turns out the successful student is not really any smarter...just more compliant..... teachers use a long list of techniques to punish and manipulate children who do not comply with the agenda to make them all little compliant patriotic drones for increasing profits in American Corporations.

    God bless the rebellious few who survived compulsory schooling. You may have missed out on some important learning. But you may actually be able to salvage your individuality... .

  • Dennis Nowland
    Dennis Nowland 2 years ago

    great, i am interested in why such a cultured nation like germany ended up with hitler as its leader. this makes a bit more sense of it all. 

  • L R
    L R 2 years ago

    Could you provide sources? Thanks

  • batfly
    batfly 2 years ago

    12 NAZIS hate this video.

  • Sean Con
    Sean Con 2 years ago

    Sources?

    Prussia (originating in the Dutchy in Prussia) is modern day mostly Poland and east Germany (yes the expanded in the other parts, but Prussia =/= germany)

    Since 1538, there are schools in Germany which would prepare them for university : these are called Gymnasiums. This is officially intrduced in (then still existing) Prussia in 1810 i think.

    What i get form this video is "German schols -------> teach authority --------> agrees to stereotypes ----------> everyone happy".

    Please do a better research next time.

    • username
      username 2 years ago

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_education_system

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Mann#Introduction_of_the_Prussian_education_system_in_the_United_States

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Gottlieb_Fichte

      Was this really that hard?


    • Robert J.
      Robert J. 2 years ago

      Some of the links you can find regarding American education and Prussia school system:  http://thenewamericanacademy.org/index.php/home/our-philosophy-menu/the-prussian-industrial-model
      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/15/1026784/-Napoleon-Prussia-the-U-S-Education-System#
      http://www.ushistoryscene.com/uncategorized/riseofpubliceducation/  (look at:  Horace Mann and Realized Education Reform)
      http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/Educate/public_school_nightmare.htm


    • lanz0r4tehwin
      lanz0r4tehwin 2 years ago

      Agreed. Also continues to refer to the country as "Prussia" post 1871 when it had reformed into the German Empire. This is just grasping at straws for another conspiracy. Maybe the adopted the Prussian model because, it was the first model to be set into place by a wealthy largely population country and had a proven track record and was likely a huge boon to the Prussian and other German states economies.

      Or it was just a sinister plot to undermine the youth of America. 


  • batfly
    batfly 2 years ago

    At least 6 billion more people need to see this video.

  • Ryan Strauchon
    Ryan Strauchon 2 years ago

    what are your sources?

    • batfly
      batfly 2 years ago

      Brendan Conway-Smith and Eve Zarifa


  • abhinav maharia
    abhinav maharia 2 years ago

    Grt job done fantastic research done....a very thought provoking documentary hats off for that 
    thinking that even today also most of the countries following the same model..... but done in a neatly manner....& that's the reason why we are getting less leaders & more working or service class people

  • Tarnseele
    Tarnseele 2 years ago

    It's pronounced fick-tuh. It's time to grow out of the world war 2 propaganda people. It's 2014.

    • Duane Hayes
      Duane Hayes 1 year ago

      +Tarnseele ya? do you still have a t.v? lead by example Tarnseele


  • Rusty Packard
    Rusty Packard 2 years ago

    got almost to the two minute mark... wow . Prussian is a foul word in your mouth... 

    • laswan s.
      laswan s. 1 year ago

      +Chastity Taylor Do you know anyone who teaches true history? No. Unless you home school and dig your own research. Not from traditional sources either. Eustice Mullins knew history very well. He died some years ago but there is a site that has much of his work. There are a lot of videos. Search for him. He's a very interesting man. Was I guess. But he lives on through the internet.


    • Chastity Taylor
      Chastity Taylor 2 years ago

      is history mistaken?


  • Roman Soiko
    Roman Soiko 2 years ago

    SkyShark 1000 can you give me tips on setting up a homeschooling curriculum because I decided to follow the same model 

  • Roman Soiko
    Roman Soiko 2 years ago

    This is one of the multitude of reasons why I will NEVER Send my kids to public school I Will homeschool myself. I learned nothing from the education system. I TAUGHT MYSELF geography, politics, history and twelve languages if the school system's goal is to make me an obedient, submissive and obsequious slave then the school system has miserably failed me 

    • Aaron Burooseniya
      Aaron Burooseniya 1 year ago

      Do you have suggestions on self-education.doing the same thing in China now.


  • Tony Bones
    Tony Bones 3 years ago

    great video

  • Max P.
    Max P. 3 years ago

    OUTSTANDING VIDEO!!!

  • lovtoquestn
    lovtoquestn 3 years ago

    This is almost exactly what happened in the late 1800's to early 1900's with Wilhelm Wundt's experimental psychology, which was also implemented in American schools in order to subjugate the population. They aren't even trying to hide operant conditioning anymore. At university, I was taught that it was a good thing for children to be conditioned. The only reason they can teach that now is because they "conditioned" generations of people to accept that it is the right thing to do.  

    • lovtoquestn
      lovtoquestn 2 years ago

      Lenin said, "Give me just one generation of school children and I will change the world."


    • lovtoquestn
      lovtoquestn 2 years ago

      Conditioned to accept the status quo, despite the dangers.


    • Sanguinius
      Sanguinius 2 years ago

      conditioned more detail please
      conditioned to do ...............


    • Roman Soiko
      Roman Soiko 2 years ago

      What did you major in education? Psychology, social work, sociology or education. All of these believe in the theory of deviance that is if you do not follow the norms, mores and conventions of your society you are somehow inferior I resent being helped and babied and mollycoddled I RATHER SOLVE MY PROBLEMS MYSELF 


  • Travis Galle
    Travis Galle 3 years ago

    We have already set ourselves up for it. Patriotism has been so heavily forced into us by the Prussian model that we are pretty much socially ostracized for daring to speak out against the United States military. People turn a blind eye toward government encroachment into our personal lives because of this indoctrination. 

    • Benschachar
      Benschachar 1 year ago

      +Travis Galle This is so backwards it is beyond belief.Speaking out against the VOLUNTEERS who fight for the country is frowned upon. But criticizing the military has been in vogue for half a century or more. If anything, Marxism has been foisted on our children and you're ostracized for not conforming to the bull known as political correctness.


  • elicia clegg
    elicia clegg 3 years ago

    Oh my goodness...that is some scary stuff.  Thank you for this video I will be sharing it. :)

  • hypo krites
    hypo krites 3 years ago

    Interesting points about the history of the public education system in the United States.

  • Latasha Ramsel
    Latasha Ramsel 3 years ago

    Would I be wrong if I sent this to one of my kid's teacher??

  • Luigi Jav
    Luigi Jav 3 years ago

    this system is just a step in the organization of society, in the evolution of mankind

    • Luigi Jav
      Luigi Jav 3 years ago

      Your vision is an oversimplification, both ideas are not opposed.


    • Dark Caesar
      Dark Caesar 3 years ago

      +Luigi Jav I see that the public education system has fulfilled its purpose with you. You seem to believe that history has some type of teleological purpose above human desires, but history is driven by relations of power between peoples and classes. The state and the public education system has made you docile and timid. If you want to witness "chaos", take a look at international politics. All large-scale military conflict is caused by the step in the organization society known as the state.


    • Luigi Jav
      Luigi Jav 3 years ago

      +Simon Sham you like it or not, it is a fact of history, otherwise society would be chaotic


  • iago Barreto
    iago Barreto 3 years ago

    Mate you're too dramatic, the only reason such system exist is to ensure the existence of a state, or other there would be no State. It is not a Malicious plot, just sound reasoning.

    • Ethan Hanson
      Ethan Hanson 3 years ago

      Sound reasoning = perpetuating the status quo? You are a victim of your own time and culture my friend.


    • Ethan Hanson
      Ethan Hanson 3 years ago

      +Simon Sham As an anarchist, I'm pleased to be reading this :)


  • sandranian
    sandranian 3 years ago

    This video is so full of errors and 1/2 truths it is ridiculous. Obviously, the person who put this together never received a proper education. First step: Spelling. Since when is "Governor" spelled "Governer"?  And no, Prussia never included Bavaria. And German soldiers were absolutely taught to think for themselves, which is why they were successful in 1870. And that is just in the first couple of minutes of this farce. 

    • sandranian
      sandranian 3 years ago

      +Mark Allebon No, not a "Catch 22". And it says nothing about the current education system. What it says is that the person who put this together is not too bright. And btw, it's "you're", not "your".


    • Mark Allebon
      Mark Allebon 3 years ago

      Thats a bit of a catch 22 isn't it. If your right then what does that say about the current education system.


  • skyshark1000
    skyshark1000 3 years ago

    That's strange, my son never went to one day of Public School and he does know how to type on his PC. He has a degree in electrical engineering. Wonder how he managed that without a good ole publik skool edumacation? Oh that's right, his mother home schooled him.

  • ModernDH
    ModernDH 3 years ago

    Schematic from Germany

  • 777Holyhandgrenade
    777Holyhandgrenade 3 years ago

    Schools need to be closed. America has become a Communist/Fascist country. People rely on the state and corp. to provide their lives. People should start being parents again and raise their own children. The child is an individual and will learn best on their own and at home. The school system is a parasitic entity and costs too much to continue.

  • Steven Urban
    Steven Urban 3 years ago

    We must privatize education now. Public education is nothing more that progressive indoctrination.

  • GordosMama1111
    GordosMama1111 3 years ago

    right. maybe we'd be typing on machines that didnt break in 2 years in order to turn apple a profit.

  • spiryt03
    spiryt03 3 years ago

    I pledge allegiance... to the flag... NOT

  • Franklin Ma
    Franklin Ma 3 years ago

    Horace Mann was born in Franklin, Massachusetts. We still have the FIRST PUBLIC SCHOOL It is a one room classroom. If it wasn't for schooling we wouldn't be typing on our PC's Mac IPhone etc.

  • Satyavan
    Satyavan 3 years ago

    Well, there is some truth in that, but I don't think it is simple as that. After all the question remains if all this the cause or the effect?

  • donotfret
    donotfret 3 years ago

    Have you seen the black kid praying to Obama? Democrats are dedicated

  • nö
     3 years ago

    No, prussia isn't germany.
    The idea of the new education system of prussia was that all kids had to go to school which didn't cost anything. Founder of this education system was Wilhelm von Humboldt, it was part of the prussian reforms. It is an american thought that Hitler was the resut of these reforms, I didn't think so, sorry.

  • ProzacR
    ProzacR 4 years ago

    If you compare maps you will see that Actually Prussia is literally wiped out and territory shared between Russia and Poland.

  • Beauweir
    Beauweir 4 years ago

    Be honest now, you wanted to join in just then didn't you? Haha.
    Before people make an effigy of me and set it alight I mean the general public obviously. You guys watching this video are more likely to be the open minded folk that (hopefully) don't tie into the whole the right/left divide and rule nonsense...

  • Beauweir
    Beauweir 4 years ago

    Surely Americans are brought up to kiss the president's arse. At our press conferences our journalists shout questions at the pm and harangue him royally about the issues of the day, disgraces in his party etc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the president agree to answer questions in advance? Plus Americans seem to be brought up to have blind patriotism to the point where critical thinking tends to go out the window if someone waves a flag and shouts "USA! USA!"

  • RhymLV
    RhymLV 4 years ago

    Search for: "the ultimate history lesson john taylor gatto" for 5hr broader view of this topic

  • vlr1230
    vlr1230 4 years ago

    People are starting to wake up to this prison system known as "school" and are opting to homeschool. I cannot urge patriots strongly enough to pull their children out of this evil matrix asap! Please see my videos: /watch?v=iFlvkwXCQco and /watch?v=cWWL5CNldA0

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