sexual anybody identify smarter this casf?
problem is that Panarin draws the puck back past the blue line to make the pass to Hartman, looks like he's offside. believe rule 83 (or something like that) states that player can essentially put himself offside if he's in full control of the puck, and no doubt Panarin was. looks like the right call to me
Only you homers at Sportsnet would call that questionable.
Pause a 0:44 it's blatantly offside lol. There's either a lot of biased Hawks fans in the comments or a lot of blind/uninformed people
It looked like he made the pass before the puck completely crossed the blue line (if you check the blue line camera) he made the pass when it was half in the NZ and half on the blue line
100% Onside No Question
The offside rule is stupid. If both skates are in before the puck, no matter what, should be offside !
Nothing questionable about it
Those Jerseys though :)
The rule is super weird, they need to re-write if. Obviously in this case it's a good goal but the rule is still very strange.
Gotta see it maple leafs lose but won't upload any goals from habs vs sens game
Sod Laflare Eh, the Leafs get more clicks. I mean, you're here
It isn't questionable. Panarin had control of the puck. Not offsides. Hawks win. End of story.
WOW that's offside no doubt. 0.25 speed from 0:43 to 0:46. It's as clear as day.
Richard Harder Several people have linked to them in the comment section of this video. Take a look at the top comment and you'll find it. Or just look them up yourself...
please show me the rules.
That's not what the rules say though. The puck carrier was onside, so therefore the play was onside. He cannot make himself, or the play more importantly, offside by passing it.
he didn't maintain possession before the puck crossed the blue line. Pause on 0:44. That's offside
That was offside but it doesn't really matter cause the Leafs would of just lost in the shootout like always. You can't pass the puck from the neutral zone to another player while you are already passed the blue line.
No Goal. The puck left the Chicago Players stick prior to it entering the zone (fully crossing the blue line) thus putting the player who was passing it in an offside position because he is now across the blue line before the puck.If the Chicago player had held the puck for another second, but him and the puck would've been in the zone.I understand that you can skate backwards into the zone and not be called offside as long as you have control of the puck. That's why this is offside because the puck left the Chicago Players stick (making him no longer in control of the puck) before it entered the zone.
i think this is "questionable" only because its against hockey capital Toronto
What are those jerseys? Your one day late Toronto.
Trenton Pombert there the Toronto st. pats jerseys.
Ouzer it may be offside if he passed/lost control outside the blueline. I hate to say but he passed it on the blueline which makes it onside.
Forget about this goal, what about that missed too many men on the ice call?
I'm a Hawks fan and I can admit that was an offside, but what can you do. #HAWKSWIN
you wont fool me by changing your shirts and team name ...Losers Even After FIFTY Seasons!!!
+StephCurryEats3s Don't. We aren't in the winning position here. We stick with we are on the upswing while the Habs have Shea Weber
yoan yergeau I mean, 12 cups is pretty good. Goes to show what poor management leads to. In reality Toronto has only been bad for the decade from poor management. We almost won a cup less than 15 years ago, but poor management
go habs go
I think he passed it and didn't have control. offside.
So two Canadian teams face off for the division lead and sporstnetCANADA doesn't upload a single clip? You suck, sportsnet.
BLT4LIFE Leafs get more clicks...
Wtf kind of jersey Is that Toronto
About as controversial as that ugly ass jersey
So many bandwagon Blackhawks fans it's getting annoying.
+StephCurryEats3s Let me guess, you didn't watch hockey before 2010 and just picked that year because that is when they won the first of this 3 recent cups. This is very typical when fans use 2010 as the date rather than 2007 or 2008 when they started selling out again.
Matt TH Ikr. All of them showed up in 2010.
how he can control the puck if he doesent have it anymore?
so many buthurt leafs fans haha
It's not like the Leafs were going to win in the shootout anyway.
Surprised that you're the only one who noticed.
You would think that SPORTSNETCANADA would take the trouble to know the rules before labeling a video "questionable". NHL rule 83.1 "However, a player actually controlling the puck who shall cross the line ahead of the puck shall not be considered “off-side,” provided he had possession and control of the puck prior to his skates crossing the blue line".
Frank Kolton He passes it in split second if viewed FxF. Really quickly it could have gone either way. Thus the rewrite argument and the complexity of the rule
Questionable? He had control of the puck, I used to love this page but godamn it has gone down hill fast and is such a bias network.
as someone who loves the leafs and hates the hawks that was a good goal and just be glad that we at least got one point
lol what was gardiner doing?
Why all the dislikes? Not even being biased here that was a good goal. This is no where near as bad as the wild offside goal vs Chicago earlier this season. I have a feeling most see the words "questionable offsides " in the title and Blackhawks jerseys in the thumbnail and automatically hit dislike.
I think it's also from Leafs fans who don't understand the rules, and other fans disliking because of the title since the call isn't actually questionable and it shows Sportsnet's bias towards the Leafs(obvious)
I love Toronto's jersey. Is it just for St.Patricks Day?
clearly offside is everyone drunk there hockey night in canada.
All Chicago fans I saw in stands were fat/ hipsters/ foreign.
The blatant non-call on CHI too many men penalty is what ruined this OT.
When the announcers completely refute the title...
But didn't he let go of the puck to pass before the puck fully crossed the line? So he didn't have possession, unless the rule allows the puck to just touch the line while u have possession, otherwise it shouldn't count
If you go frame by frame you can see that although he crosses the blue line while in possession of the puck, he then passes (giving up possession) before the puck crosses the line. Therefore, he had crossed the blue line while the puck was still being passed between the hawks players and had not yet gone over the line. Looks like it should be offside
He wasn't inside the puck didn't cross the line while he was in possession of it, he wasn't offsides until he passed it. Had he taken another stride and gotten the puck past the blue line before passing it it wouldn't be controversial.
That doesn't make him offside. Once he was onside he can't make himself offside by passing the puck forward. That's not how offsides works
As a leaf fan, that was clearly not offside.
StephCurryEats3s you want to talk about too many men? Alright, what about during the third or OT, I believe when two leaf players were making the change. They were 20-30 feet from the bench and that's when two other leafs players jumped on to try and defend the 2 on 1
SantaClaus IsReal They gotya show when Panik steps on the ice and they don't call to many men..
Guess Steve Dangle isn't getting a St. Pats jersey
Go Leafs !!! Hawks .... Booooooo !! :-)
freaking love those white and green jerseys
I watched that live and called it that they would score after Toronto missed like 3 breakaways
Yup, that's how it goes
The only reason they titled this "controversial" is because it was the Leafs.
StephCurryEats3s so did the leafs
Joe Danger Hawks got away with a too many men in OT.
The play is within the rules so it is onside. With that said the rule isn't a very good one at all, Should be puck has to the first thing across the blue line.
not very controversial, there is a written rule about this situation
That's one rule they should have left alone. Puck has to cross the line before everyone else and you would avoid this kind of controversy.
It isn't controversial you just want more views shithead smh
It's the Hawks of Course they will count the goal even though it's offside
Zachman I thought When you have Possession with the Puck and Cross the line like that it's a good Goal but when you pass it it's not Because he passed it when Crossing the BlueLine
Kbholla Yeah it wasn't close Because it was the Hawks I know We get it no need to explain
Too bad it wasn't even close to being offside buddy.
I'm a leaf fan and I hate the hawks but that wasn't questionable it was a good goal
He has control of the puck. Get your head out of your ass and into the rulebook
Toronto's St.Pats jerseys look like Hartford Whalers jersey eh?
Why not show some of the missed calls on the leafs lol. Not "controversial" enough?
Inb4 some tool comments about "the hawks getting every call"
The Hawks are going to be an elite team for a long time
SantaClaus IsReal Maybe. Depends on what the salary cap will be.
Nick Raymond Toronto will replace them in a couple years with their young players.
Thumbnail had me thinking this was a retro video like wtf is that camera?
you like it or not, it was a good goal, he had control over the puck(non-blackhawks fan)
its offside, how does he have "possession" if he was passing it...
controversial because it's in Toronto
What was controversial about this?
I'm a massive leafs fan and we really needed the win but if you know the rules then you would know that it's a good goal any day of the week.
Osnipes23 FIFA/NHL/COD well the lightning lost in reg and the islanders lost in OT so it's not the worst day to lose
the st pats jerseys are beautiful
Gardiner, poke check that. Fucks sake
ya he sucks. He's in the show cause he can skate, i guess..
wtf is that camera on the blue line? Still using technology from the 80's
the camera is unreasonably low quality. There are plenty of cameras that could record high frame rate for the duration of a game. The net cams are way better and they're wireless, getting pelted with pucks
You keep proving my point. I bet your iPhone 7 can keep filming for a few hours saving all the footage at like 60fps with the highest quality. Oh, without overheating also.
Maybe try not being a spoiled little whiner, you're embarrassing.
I Am Monster Truck Refs use logic?
That wasn't questionable at all lol.
+SpicyWeiner192 This showed up in my suggested video's list and I kind of chuckled because I didn't even know there was a debate on this until this. Typically "Sportsnetcanada" is more knowledgeable than this. Wasn't aware there was ever even a question about this. I think it only took them like 10 seconds to review this one too.
KNR Well if it was offside they would have overturned it.
Johnny Please refer to my earlier comment with the relevant rule that explains why it's onside.
yes and no because the confusing ass rule says that if they control than it is not off side but if loses control than it is
you can't be in the Leafs zone and pass the puck while it is still in the neutral zone to another player. As soon as you pass it you're offside
It's only controversial if you are clueless about the rules. A player in complete control of the puck can put himself offsides. Now if his linemate without the puck crossed the blueline before the puck, then that wouldn't count.
Watching Ouzer attempt to defend his grammatical ineptness is damn hilarious.
So you also don't understand basic grammar/syntax form? Jesus.
Oh, I know. But I'm an idiot and a simpleton who's never played hockey because I pointed this out earlier in the thread.
+Koot this rule just stared getting g called so anyone who acts like they knew the rule are lies any hockey fans knows for the last 24 years I been watching hockey puck always had vross line before player I love how people all of sudden think they know everything if they did they would know this rule hasn't matter for as long as I remember
The puck carrier made the pass when the puck was behind the blue line and both of his feet were in the offensive zone. He did not have control of the puck. No Goal. I am a Leafs fan so I do have a bias opinion. If someone could explain something I missed, that would be great.
Lmao, op's original comment made no sense at all
Bennett Desmarais So what? Panarin was onside when he made the pass. You're basically saying the puck was offside, like it was player or something. It makes no sense.
Dog's hockey highlights the puck was off his stick 0:44
He had full control it's a good goal
The LeafsNet was trying to make it questionable. 😂😂😂
goal or no goal, it seems that even when the leafs are decent, the bandwagons are still around.
Great game, and the acc seemed louder than usual.
+Jed Jod stfu
LETS GO HAWKS THEY ARE THE BEST TEAM!!!!(like if you agree)
There was nobody in your arena before 2010 lmao, thats how we know you guys are the biggest bandwagons of all time.
japjeet suden Lol, Japjeet
Chief Blackhawk Hawks fans did start appearing but not app because of bandwagon it's because Rocky took over and actually cared about the team and the fans actually showed up
Love all of the bandwagon hawks fans there
i live in chicago so i can say im a hawks fan
Pamandeep Sidhu Actually, I came to that game after a flight from Chicago. I was also there to check out the Hockey HOF and I met a lot of other Hawks fans that were doing the same thing.
Good goal, had full control of the puck
Wow another another video on the leafs
Well, there's always next decade
no it wasn't really that questionable it was a good goal.
i know panarin had full control your allowed to do that, the only reason they reviewed it was because its OT they review anything
Leafsnetbut thats offsides
TopThrillAnthony bro Sportsnet is hosted in Toronto..
He passed the puck while his feet were in the zone and the puck was outside thus he was offside. Moron
TOR Hockeycards u can hear the commentator say the god damn rule ffs. He just doesn't like to admit it
Oliver Miciak Or he has a different point of view then yours. Then again your probably a leafs hater
thefoolonthehill do u not know the rules. Oh wait ur a leafs fan. The only rule that u want is something that makes the leafs win every game